Do you Hate Obama?

Its so sad to have such a large majority of our country duped by Fauxnews

THERE IS NO COVERAGE FOR ILLEGALS. you are arguing against a phantom

I don’t know why – the Democrats have repeatedly blocked efforts by the Republicans to put in language that would specifically prevent illegal aliens from receiving care.

As we all know, if it’s not prohibited and ENFORCED, it will be abused – the bill as it stands does not permit providers to check a person’s status so all an IA has to do is say that he/she is a permanent resident.

Additionally, the clause that allows coverage for non-resident aliens (ie: tourists) will be abused to cover medical coverage for the world – anyone who can get a visa to come here will be able to get medical care for free.

Intelligent people do their own research and don’t depend on Fox OR the WH to tell them what to think. They also think through 3 or 4 steps down the line to see what the actual outcome could be.

Sadly our politicians care more about illegals than their own US Citizens!!! Makes you proud to be an American huh?????????

If it’s true that would be a sad day in american history! When a US citizen dies from no help with health, but the american tax payers have to pay hospital bills for people who snuck into the us illegally!

This is what is written is H. R. 3200, about “undocumented aliens”
((I added page numbers (in part only))

“Sec. 246. No Federal payment for undocumented aliens.” (pg 07)

“SEC. 242. AFFORDABLE CREDIT ELIGIBLE INDIVIDUAL.
(a) DEFINITION.—
(1) IN GENERAL.—For purposes of this division, the
term ‘‘affordable credit eligible individual’’
means, subject to subsection (b), an individual who
is lawfully present in a State in the United States
(other than as a nonimmigrant described in a sub18
paragraph (excluding subparagraphs (K), (T), (U),
and (V)) of section 101(a)(15) of the Immigration
and Nationality Act)—” (pg 132)

“SEC. 246. NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS.

Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments
for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are
not lawfully present in the United States.” (pg 143)
http://www.box.net/shared/h3u0f7tjz6

I know loopholes exist and are created when our government is involved. Further I have said before that laws are written in circles so one must first find an end before beginning to make sense enough to partially understand.

It is simple to make a statement but simple statements do not give support to this argument. Such as in my link above page 50 does not have the word “free” anywhere on that page. In the entire document “free” is used a few times but by no means as written in kize’s post.
It is interesting that she feels that people are deaf and uneducated simply because of their view. I am educated enough to know her post is bogus at best, I have listened to enough of that style of rhetoric babbling to check on my own before placing trust in any of their words.

In getting back to the issue, H. R. 3200 says what in Immigration
and Nationality Act section 101(a)(15) excluding subparagraphs (K), (T), (U), and (V),

http://www.uscis.gov/propub/ProPubVAP.jsp?dockey=c9fef57852dc066cfe16a4cb816838a4
http://www.visaportal.com/page.asp?page_id=139

I am guessing this is one of those times I spoke of above, check the link start reading and build your own opinion.

Unfortunately illegals are already covered in the ER now. I don’t know what Congress was thinking when they extended our money to people who are not even supposed to be here in the first place. Our wonderful politicians at work again. A lot of times, it would be better if Congress did nothing at all than to pass legislation detrimental to the betterment of us legals.

I want a president, be it Obomba or someone else, to enforce the immigration laws and start deportation. The will not start fast enough for me. Secure the border first. Then start a ‘Report and Deport’ program. Obomba will not be the one to do it. He is just another traitor like Bush was.

They isn’t

Obama does plan on including illegals. As soon as he’s able to recognize them as being legally here through his amnesty.

Democrats have already declared they are going to write this bill up on their own. And that means stripping anything out of the bill that the Republicans have put forth in it in it’s current state.

They are already under a federal program that takes care of them at a low cost – low pay scale. Any form of health care that is federally funded or getting federal funding is paid for through the nations taxpayers. Not just the states taxpayers.

I think it’s total BS to force us to pay for their care with little or no return dividends on illegals part.

Rising health care costs put focus on illegal immigrants
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2008-01-21-immigrant-healthcare_N.htm?loc=interstitialskip

Illegal immigrants and health care
http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/news/homepage/article_1355949.php

Obama makes moral case for health reform
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090820/ts_alt_afp/uspoliticshealthcareobama

On top of this, Obama has promised 63 billion dollars towards health care for Africa. And they are not even illegally present in this country.